The Gospel - Folly to the Foolish and Wisdom to the Wise

1 Cor. 1:18  "For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 
1 Cor. 1:19  For it is written, 'I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.' 
1 Cor. 1:20  Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 
1 Cor. 1:21  For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. 
1 Cor. 1:22  For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 
1 Cor. 1:23  but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 
1 Cor. 1:24  but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God."

1 Cor. 1:18  "For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."

The "word of the cross" is referring to the Gospel message of Christ dying on the cross and being raised again on the third day. If you don't believe something is true, then chances are you believe that it is a foolish idea, or thought, or statement. Paul is saying that if you are not saved, you don't believe the Gospel is true, and therefore believe it's foolish. However, if you are saved, you believe the Gospel, and you know that it is truth, and that it is where the power of God is shown. In the power of His grace and the power of our salvation, both in action (the paying the price), and in the saving of us (the beginning of our salvation).

1 Cor. 1:19  "For it is written, 'I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.'"  (Found in Isaiah 29:14)

Using the KJV will help to clear up what this verse is saying.
(KJV)  For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 
Paul's point is that anybody who thinks himself wise and has any faith in his own knowledge and understanding will be humbled and learn that it has no eternal value. When we die, all that will matter is our knowledge of and faith in Christ. When the earth gets destroyed, all its history, all the sciences, all medicine, all philosophy, all language will be useless to us due to it's imperfection.  When we get to heaven, it will all become unnecessary to remember the history we were taught, we will not need to know about science (at least science of today, we may still learn how God made things to work perfectly, but not man's pathetic shot at understanding it), medicine will be obsolete, philosophy will become false, and we won't need to worry about spelling or grammar. What you are taught in school will not gain you salvation, so in mind of eternity, it won't matter. Not to mention, most of our philosophy, history, science, and language, is full of misinformation, and/or human convention which will all be destroyed.

1 Cor. 1:20-21  "Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe."

I believe the reference to the "wise" is relating to the philosophers of the time in the Gentile world, the scribes would be the Jewish version of this, being the people who are "wise" within the Jewish culture, and the debater which would be the person who thinks they can confound people by their brilliance. Then, Paul goes on to say that God has made the wisdom of people into nothing, he has destroyed it, and it is worthless. His point is this: "See all these people whom you deem smart? Whom you think are brilliant? Well, they say nothing wise; it is all foolishness." The wisdom of God is the reason that world can not know God through wisdom. I know that's maybe difficult to understand, so let me try to re-phrase it. Not allowing men to find God through wisdom is what God deemed wise. Why did God decide that the only way to Him was through Christ and His death and not through worldly wisdom? Because if God allowed men to find Him through their own wisdom it would create pride in the fact that they found God, and others with less wit didn't.  I leave folly in quotation marks because it isn't folly, it is wisdom. But yet, to those who do not believe, (as it says in verse 18 "For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing") it is foolish; if it wasn't foolish to them, they would believe because who would pick folly over wisdom?

1 Cor. 1:22  "For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom,"

The Jews look for God in the signs, and the Greeks look for God through earthly wisdom. But neither will find Him. Because they only way to find God is through faith in the "folly" of Christ's death and resurrection.

1 Cor. 1:23  "but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles,"

The proper translation would be "an offence to the Jews" The reason being that they expected a physical king, one who would save them from the world at large. What they didn't realize is that He came to save them from the carnality of the world and not from the rulers of the world. The reason that is is folly to the Gentiles, is that it goes against everything they know. Some guy, in Judea died and then His followers claim He rose again. Why would this make sense? Sacrifice does not make sense, and they hadn't ever seen anybody rise from the dead before. That is foolishness to the "rational" humanistic mind; why should we do something to better others if it hurts ourselves?

1 Cor. 1:24  "but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God."

The word "called":
"κλητός
klētos
klay-tos'
invited, that is, appointed, or (specifically) a saint: - called."
Basically, those who are saved: the believers in Christ. This is just a reiteration of what Paul says back in verse 18: "But to us who are being saved it is the power of God." We are saved by Christ, and even though it doesn't make sense from a humanistic-logical-sinful standpoint, it makes sense from God's viewpoint and believers see it as perfect wisdom on God's part.


The whole purpose of this passage is to reaffirm that Christ is true wisdom to the believer. And although those of this age may think they are smart and have wisdom but it will all perish, as will they. It says the Jews wanted signs, yet because of the lack of signs and the lack of Christ doing what they expected, He was a stumbling block and offensive to the Jews. To the Gentiles, it didn't make sense. Why would they care about some guy who died in a different culture? Yet, it is wisdom to us believers who think not with the foolish Gentile mind, nor with the tainted mind of the Jew. Instead, we think with the mind of the Holy Spirit Who was given to us by God to explain His mysteries and to guide us through our lives. 

Wisdom and the Holy Spirit

1 Cor. 2:6  "Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom, although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away. 

1 Cor. 2:7  But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. 

1 Cor. 2:8  None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 

1 Cor. 2:9  But, as it is written, 'What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him'—

1 Cor. 2:10  these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God. 

1 Cor. 2:11  For who knows a person's thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 

1 Cor. 2:12  Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. 
1 Cor. 2:13  And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual. 
1 Cor. 2:14  The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 
1 Cor. 2:15  The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 
1 Cor. 2:16  'For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct Him?' But we have the mind of Christ." 

In my last post, I asserted that all you need to witness, is the Gospel - that Christ died and He rose again.

1 Cor. 2:1  "And I, when I came to you, brothers, did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom." 

This holds true. What happens sometimes, though, is that we never move on from this point.

1 Cor. 3:1  "But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. 

1 Cor. 3:2  I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready."

When we are first saved, we are infants in Christ. This faith has to be brought from infancy to adulthood. 

In contrast to what I pointed out in my last post, we are supposed to give wisdom and knowledge to people, but to those that are already saved and growing. 

I shall continue where I left off, at 1 Corinthians 2:6.

1 Cor. 2:6  "Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom, although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away."

The mature, those are those who are complete in Christ, those who have been saved, and already know the basics of the faith and understand the Gospel.  This wisdom is Spiritual in nature, not earthly wisdom.  God is not interested in us winning Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?; God is interested in us knowing about Him and who he is, Then show us how to live. This verse is repeating what He says in chapter one, verse nineteen:

1 Cor. 1:19  "For it is written, 'I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.'" 

The wisdom of this age, and of those who deem themselves wise, He shall destroy. It shall not endure through eternity.
This wisdom is the same wisdom as Solomon talked about in Proverbs three:

Prov. 3:19  "The LORD by wisdom founded the earth; by understanding He established the heavens; 
Prov. 3:20  by His knowledge the deeps broke open, and the clouds drop down the dew." 

This wisdom is God's power. This wisdom is His actions. This wisdom is His plans, and His wisdom shows who He is. 

1 Cor. 2:7  "But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory."

"We" refers to those who preach the Gospel.  This same "mystery" or "secret" is talked about several times in the Gospels and in Paul's letters. For example:

Rom. 16:25  "Now to Him who is able to strengthen you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery that was kept secret for long ages." 

Eph 1:7  In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 

Eph. 1:8  "which He lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight 

Eph. 1:9  making known to us the mystery of His will, according to His purpose, which He set forth in Christ 

Eph. 1:10  as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in Him, things in heaven and things on earth."

This Wisdom is the Gospel, His plan of salvation, and His plan to show His power and glory.
Conversely, this also brings us glory, and its purpose is to bring us glory. The glory we will receive is when we reach heaven, it is our salvation, and our reward for obeying Christ. This glory however, is still God's glory because it's nothing we did, but what He did. He was the One who supplied us with His glory; He is the one who created it.

1 Cor. 2:8  "None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory."

Those who crucified Christ did not understand the Gospel. Had they understood the Gospel, they would have believed in Christ and believed that He was the Savior of the world. They would have then had nothing to do with condemning Him to death in the physical sense, (although through their previous sin they already condemned Him).

1 Cor. 2:9  "But, as it is written, 'What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him'—"

This passage can be used both for our current lives, and also for our future lives. Life isn't going to be peachy in our current life because we are saved. However, we will be given things like joy and peace beyond anything we could have imagined if we had not been saved by Christ.

Rom. 14:17  "For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."

As stated here, in Romans 14, part of the kingdom of God is peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. If we are in the Holy Spirit, we will have joy and peace; if we are not in the Holy Spirit, we will have unrest and not exhibit the Fruits of the Spirit. If we are not in the Spirit, how can He give us His fruit?

The second part of this verse is talking about future glory in heaven. This can be read about in Revelation twenty-one and twenty-two. Also, Christ talks about it in John 14: 

John 14:1  "Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in Me.

John 14:2  In My Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

John 14:3  And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to Myself, that where I am you may be also."

1 Cor. 2:10  "these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God."

The Holy Spirit should be everything to the Christian. He is our guide; He is the one to whom God has given the responsibility to reveal His will to us. The Spirit knows more about you, than you do; He knows more about God than all the angels and people combined, because He is God. This verse refers to the previous verse in the context of our being able to know some of what God has in store for us through the Holy Spirit.

1 Cor. 2:11  "For who knows a person's thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God."

We know our thoughts, because our Spirit, the Holy Spirit knows God, because He is the Spirit within God.  We cannot understand all of God's thoughts, the Holy Spirit does, and therefore reveals some of His thoughts to us. However, we can't comprehend God or His thoughts. If we could, we would be God. Hence, we have to have the Holy Spirit reveal to us what we can comprehend of God.

1 Cor. 2:12  "Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God."

The spirit of this world is referring back to the wisdom of this world, the Holy Spirit doesn't give us that kind of wisdom, but He gives us Wisdom of God, Wisdom from God, and Wisdom in God. The Holy Spirit gives us understanding of God and His hidden wisdom.

1 Cor. 2:13  "And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual." 

This is a very similar to the latter part of verse  six: "although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away."
This verse finishes Verse 6, because it talks about what this wisdom actually is. Not a human wisdom, but one that is from the Holy Spirit, and one that is about God. The Holy Spirit interprets the Bible for us, if we interpret it without the Holy Spirit, we will not have the truth. 

1 Cor. 2:14  "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned."

Just because you are wise according to worldly standards, does not mean that you are wise in godly wisdom. In fact, if you are not in the Holy Spirit, you will not understand spiritual truths. Because you don't understand them, they will seem foolish to you. Moreover, if you are wise in worldly wisdom, you will have less of a reason to follow Christ and to lean on the wisdom of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, it is much easier for those who are not wise (considered foolish)to become Christians.  The reason for this is shown in these verses:

1 Cor. 1:26  "For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. 
1 Cor. 1:27  But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; 
1 Cor. 1:28  God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 
1 Cor. 1:29  so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. 
1 Cor. 1:30  And because of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 
1 Cor. 1:31  so that, as it is written, 'Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.'"

If you are not already considered wise, smart, or noble, there is nothing for you to boast about if you are saved, except in who gave you wisdom and salvation.

1 Cor. 2:15  "The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one."

Those in whom the Holy Spirit lives, are to "judge" or discern all things in the world. He will be able to discern many spiritual things because the Holy Spirit reveals it to him. However, those who are in the world, because they do not understand the wisdom of God, and do not have the Holy Spirit they are unable to judge a Christian because they lack discernment given by the Holy Spirit.

1 Cor. 2:16  "'For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?' But we have the mind of Christ."

Paul asks an interesting rhetorical question, here. He asks who has understood the mind of the Lord. The obvious answer is no one (except the Holy Spirit who is part of the Godhead). He then goes on to make an interesting statement: "we have the mind of Christ." Did not Paul just finish saying that only the Holy Spirit understood the mind of God? Does it actually make sense that he would then come out and say we have the mind of Christ? The answer is yes; it does make sense. We don't understand it because it is above us, however the Holy Spirit is in us, and has the mind of Christ, and therefore we always have access, through the Holy Spirit, to the mind of Christ. The Spirit will then help us to understand the truths and thoughts contained within it.

Wisdom; there are two kinds. The first is earthly wisdom. This wisdom is of man; it is fleeting, it doesn't last into eternity. The rulers, and those considered wise are the people that have this wisdom, and since they will not last into eternity, neither will their wisdom. The second wisdom is of God, from God, and in God. It lasts into eternity because God is eternal. By those considered wise, it is foolish, by those considered foolish, it is considered wise. The Holy Spirit reveals to us the true, eternal wisdom. The Holy Spirit is in God, the Holy Spirit searches God, and brings to us His wisdom, which is why we always have access to the mind of Christ. Moreover, the Holy Spirit gives us wisdom, which then gives us judgement and discernment. This is unattainable for those who do not have the Spirit in them. The purpose of this passage is to dispel the myth that we should never seek the deep things, and to clarify that the deep things are of God, and are only revealed through His Spirit.

the great trap

As Promised, I will talk about the trap that we can fall into.
This trap has trapped many, and eventually leads away from Christ. Grace abounds we know that, Christ's death paid for all sins, and could pay for unlimited amounts of sin. Also we have died to the law, and are not responsible to it. So does that mean that we can sin whenever? does that mean that there is no sin for those who are saved?

Let me present this passage of Scripture to you as evidence. (ESV)


Rom 6:1  What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? 
Rom 6:2  By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? 
Rom 6:3  Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 
Rom 6:4  We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. 
Rom 6:5  For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. 
Rom 6:6  We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. 
Rom 6:7  For one who has died has been set free from sin. 
Rom 6:8  Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 
Rom 6:9  We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. 
Rom 6:10  For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. 
Rom 6:11  So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. 
Rom 6:12  Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. 
Rom 6:13  Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. 
Rom 6:14  For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. 

We are not to live for ourselves, or sin, BY NO MEANS, How can after we die to sin still live in sin? we can't, we can only live for God. Does this mean we will be perfect? No, but I just said we are not allowed to sin. How does this work? Well let me explain how this works: are we to continue in sin THAT GRACE might abound? "By no means" is what the scriptures say. However when you read this you think that it means we cannot sin, not allowed to sin. what is says it says that grace might abound, let me rephrase that: "Shall we sin so that grace can abound all the more?"We all know the answer is no, there is no reason to sin except for obeying your own mortal, sinful passions. However, this goes back to the previous post that said we must give ourselves over to God, so he can control us. Don't fight his truth, don't fight his control over your life. give him complete control.

those two words, that none will ever obtain this side of death.

Self Control is something we all struggle with, (if you don't then I applaud you, and you can stop reading right now)

The phrase "Self Control" is mentioned 24 times in the Bible (ESV). It is used in the positive sense, and in the negative sense

1Co 9:25  Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. 
1Co 9:26  So I do not run aimlessly; I do not box as one beating the air. 
1Co 9:27  But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified. 
And in the negative:

2Ti 3:1  But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. 
2Ti 3:2  For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 
2Ti 3:3  heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, 
2Ti 3:4  treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 
2Ti 3:5  having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. 
2Ti 3:6  For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, 

yet it is mentioned more in the positive sense, of what we will get or complete, if we exercise self control.Those who didn't exercise self control, paid dearly: Esau, Samson, Saul, David and even Moses, all failed to have self control and paid for it dearly. Esau gave  up his birthright because he was hungry (Gen. 25:29-34), couldn't he have waited? Couldn't he have made something for himself? Samson, could not resist telling the secret to his strength. He was enslaved by the Philistines, forced to grind grain, had his eyes poked out. Saul, let himself be overcome with anger, trying to kill David. He never had peace, and eventually killed himself. David, he could not control his lust for Bathsheba, committed adultery and then murder to cover his sin. His first child with her, died because of that sin. Moses, when he was told to speak to the rock, he struck it in anger, causing him never to enter the Promise Land. 

Lack of self control is something everybody struggles with , it comes in many forms: in the form of lust, want for wealth, food, power, and almost anything else you can think of. What happens when you try to obtain self control over something you have let yourself do in the past? well, as I grit my teeth and say I will never do that again, I try to pray harder, but then I get tempted, and I do it anyway, always digging the hole deeper, and deeper. So what can we do to gain self control? The answer is nothing, now before you jump to conclusions, let me explain what I mean. We are humans, and except for in rare cases, we can't fight addictions alone. We need help, that is why we have counseling centers. Places like Teen Challenge, because we as humans have figured out we can't do it alone. Why is this? Why can't we do it alone? before I answer that, let me tell you something, the biblical meaning of self control is walking by the spirit , under the lordship of Christ [Priola, 2013] The only way we can control ourselves is though Grace, first we are saved though grace, (not perfection) second we are changed though grace (we are not perfect after we are saved) thirdly we are given not what we deserve though grace, (not taking into account our sins before or after we are saved) God wants us to realize that we CANNOT do it on our own, that is the answer the question. We must admit that we can't do it on our own, before God will intervene on our behalf. I find myself praying quite often: God help ME to overcome this, or that. I should be praying: "God please overcome this FOR me, because I can not do it at all.
 Tit 2:11  For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, 
Tit 2:12  training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, 
Tit 2:13  waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 
Tit 2:14  who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works. 

as you can see in Titus 2:11, and 14 God saved us though Grace,
as you can see in verses 12, and 14 God wants to change, train, and purify us.
in verses 13, we wait for our hope, which is Christ, who is also our reward: Eternal life

Your only hope of ever controlling an addiction, or ever controlling yourself, is though God. you can on rare occasions overcome an addiction with the help of people. But you will never be free from it.
Christ, when he died on the cross, freed those who accept his gift, from judgment by the law,
Rom 8:2  For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. 
The law, brings to light sin, and therefor leads to death.

Rom 7:4  Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 
Rom 7:5  For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 
Rom 7:6  But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. 
Rom 7:7  What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." 
Rom 7:8  But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. 

once we accept his gift we are apart from the law, and the sin lies dead. However this can lead to another trap, which would give us licence to sin. This is not the case, and in one of my future posts, I shall cover that subject.

What God has given to us through the apostle John

me and a friend are doing a study on John, and yesterday we talked about verses 1-5. These verses are amazing if you dig into there meaning. 

(KJV)

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

Joh 1:2  The same was in the beginning with God. 

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 

Joh 1:4  In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 

Joh 1:5  And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 

in essence these are talking about Jesus, who is God, is with God, and he was there before time. Everything was made by him. Does this include sin, evil, mistakes? 

I do not believe so, because when God created the world he said all things were good, so does this mean that evil is good? the conclusion that I have come to is that all things that are evil, bad, sinful, are just broken perfection. Things that were perfect but were twisted by the author of lies: Satan. One verse that people use to say that God did create evil, is Isaiah 45:7 

Isa 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. 

but the word evil can mean calamity, (natural disasters, or war, things that are not moral evil) or it can mean calamity. this is the definition from Strong's dictionary: 

H7451

רעה    רע

ra‛  râ‛âh

rah, raw-aw'

From H7489; bad or (as noun) evil (naturally or morally). This includes the second (feminine) form; as adjective or noun: - adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease (-ure), distress, evil ([-favouredness], man, thing), + exceedingly, X great, grief (-vous), harm, heavy, hurt (-ful), ill (favoured), + mark, mischief, (-vous), misery, naught (-ty), noisome, + not please, sad (-ly), sore, sorrow, trouble, vex, wicked (-ly, -ness, one), worse (-st) wretchedness, wrong. [Including feminine ra’ah; as adjective or noun.]

  

and with my evidence I now rest my case. 

             

            Another thing I want to point out about this passage is that in Jesus is life, and from that life, came the light of men, and that light cannot be overtaken by darkness!!!! once we have life from Jesus we get light from him, which can not be overtaken by: sin, satan, the world or any such things. 

Praise God that we can not lose what he has given to us. 

Take the challenge for God

I am memorizing Romans as some of you may know, and I have memorized up through verse eleven, this is going to be an amazing time with God, and the others who are memorizing it with me. 
this of course is not going to be easy, but it will bring us all closer to God. So I am going to challenge you to do something with God that is hard, and something that will stick with you forever. YOU WILL BENEFIT FORM IT. 

so do something for God, memorize your favorite chapter in the Bible, give an extra tithe this week, go to that person that the Holy Spirit has been telling you to minister to, read your Bible extra, go on a prayer and fast time, or something similar. God gave you your time, why not give him back his own time? start a challenge for you and others in your social groups. So my Challenge to you, is to take a challenge for God, and spread a challenge around to others.